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So, I've just caught up with Kuroshitsuji, which meant that of course I had to go back and re-read Lizzy kicking zombie ass with swords, because that is the best scene in the entire manga, bar none. Elizabeth + swords = <3 4evar. Lizzy rocks the world so hard.

This, however, led, as such things do, to re-reading more arcs, and now I also need to squeal a bit over Ciel and Sebastian. Because every arc makes it clear that they are truly two of a kind, ruthless and manipulative, and basically very bad people. Ciel is seriously broken, and Sebastian seriously doesn't care, he just loves Ciel's response. Which is essentially: kill them all, burn the bodies, and sow the ground with salt. And perhaps uranium for good measure. I love that they are not good people, I love how viciously Ciel uses Sebastian, and how enchanted Sebastian is with Ciel's cold-bloodedness, I love how they spend so much time sniping sarcastically at each other and then share one of those smiles. The smile that says they will play the entire world like their personal violin, and they love doing it.

And yet.

And yet, there are still those moments of mercy woven through Ciel's manipulation and violence. Half the time, they're part and parcel of the manipulation and violence; they serve Ciel's own ends. But it's also genuine. That's the part that makes Ciel such a consistently interesting character. In this, Sebastian is the stand-in for the reader, fascinated by the contradictions of humanity.

That said, though, Lizzy is still the very best of all.

Date: 2014-05-18 03:12 am (UTC)
lexicology: Picture of a brown-haired person with glasses, deep circles under the eyes, and a bi pride pin (Default)
From: [personal profile] lexicology
Word to all of this.

Date: 2014-05-18 06:31 am (UTC)
ldybastet: (GazettE - Kai R&R red tie)
From: [personal profile] ldybastet
Mmmmmm, yes! That is exactly why I love Sebastian and Ciel together. In some way it looks to me like they need each other, for the cruelty and viciousness to be able to come out and be just that much. (Maybe not Sebastian as much as Ciel, since he's a demon butler and all, but you know...)

It's just so damn delicious! :D

Date: 2014-05-18 07:16 am (UTC)
dancing_serpent: (Kuroshitsuji - Ciel - back glance)
From: [personal profile] dancing_serpent
♥ That makes me want to re-read now, too.

Date: 2014-05-19 06:48 am (UTC)
dancing_serpent: (Kuroshitsuji - Sebastian Michaelis)
From: [personal profile] dancing_serpent
Yeah, with the disjointed way I read then, I'm not sure I really noticed - just that some were darker, some were sillier. Will be interesting to see how it looks to me now. :)

Date: 2014-05-18 06:03 pm (UTC)
phoebe_zeitgeist: (gloves)
From: [personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist
Yes, exactly! There's a reason you're one of the tiny handful of writers whose work in the fandom I really love. I'm just saying. They're terrible people, but they're not one-dimensionally terrible; they live in a complex universe and their own complexity matches it. The mercy, when it shows up, isn't pastede on yay! to keep the characters from being too hateful for the assumed audience. It's organic, and the proof that it works is that it never feels contradictory.

I wonder whether Lizzie isn't -- well, not a stand-in for the audience, exactly, because Lizzie is Lizzie. But there's a way in which since the Campania arc, I think she may function to give readers permission to love Sebastian and Ciel. She doesn't know the worst about them, but she clearly knows a hell of a lot, and her own fundamental goodness shines through everything she does and says. If she loves them anyway (and she plainly does), why shouldn't we?

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