EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Jun. 13th, 2011 03:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Just caught up with Kuroshitsuji, and I have only this to say:
YES, YES, YES, GO, GO, OMG, YES!!!!!
GO ELIZABETH, YOU ROCK THE WORLD, OMG TOBOSO YOU ROCK SO HARD LET ME KISS YOUR FUCKING FEET, YES, YES, YES!!!
LIZZY WITH A SWORD! LIZZY KICKING ZOMBIE ASS! THE WORLD IS BEAUTIFUL, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SEBASTIAN/LIZZY/CIEL FIC RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
*pauses to catch her breath* The last issue made my fucking MONTH. *grinning all over her face*
YES, YES, YES, GO, GO, OMG, YES!!!!!
GO ELIZABETH, YOU ROCK THE WORLD, OMG TOBOSO YOU ROCK SO HARD LET ME KISS YOUR FUCKING FEET, YES, YES, YES!!!
LIZZY WITH A SWORD! LIZZY KICKING ZOMBIE ASS! THE WORLD IS BEAUTIFUL, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SEBASTIAN/LIZZY/CIEL FIC RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
*pauses to catch her breath* The last issue made my fucking MONTH. *grinning all over her face*
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Date: 2011-06-13 07:25 pm (UTC)THIS, TOO. So much of this would be freaking fabulous right now.
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Date: 2011-06-13 07:27 pm (UTC)It's so /perfect/. It's so /right/. (And Ciel is so gobsmacked and it's so cute.)
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Date: 2011-06-13 08:48 pm (UTC)Don't get me wrong: I love Lizzie and her swords. It's just that I've started to have the sense that I'm the only person in the world who wasn't really surprised (she's always had a will of iron, and her mother is who she is; wasn't it always likely that she'd be able to fight and fearless and competent under the right circumstances?), and the only one who doesn't have a sense that this really changes anything about her relationships. (Why would it? She's always loved Ciel and she's always fought for him, whether he knew it or not, and whether it was in ways he recognized or not. And he's always loved her, although not necessarily in all the ways she'd like. He knows she has courage, or he should. What's different now?)
Which isn't to say I'm not willing to be convinced that this changes the relevant relationships, or about the plausibility and goodness of any and all Sebastian/Lizzy/Ciel. I totally am. I'm just . . . bemused. Everyone else is seeing it, and it is invisible to my eyes, and that's always kinda disorienting.
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Date: 2011-06-13 08:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-13 09:19 pm (UTC)I think what I expect to be different now is that /Ciel/ knows Lizzy is strong. That has to change how he relates to her (if not how he reacts to her Cute Obsession as relates to his own clothing). He's always loved her, yes, but never /once/ even /considered/ letting her in on the business side of things. Now I think that has occurred to him wrapped around a big hammer. *pauses to sparkle some more* Now she's not just his ditzy little cousin who he protects, she has what it takes to be his /partner/ and he knows it.
*grins* I don't actually see the three of them all in bed together much myself, but I definitely think this opens up the potential for Sebastian and Lizzy to have a Deep Connection via protecting Ciel. I have this image in my head of her facing down some evildoer after Ciel and Sebastian appearing discreetly at her side with "Madam's sword." as if it were a bottle of wine at dinner. And her telling him to take care of Ciel and, of course, he wants to know what Phantomhive would come to if their butler couldn't-- and she cuts him off with a soft "Sebastian." And he /smirks/ and murmurs "Yes, my Lady." And off he goes with Ciel while she dices their pursuers. That's the kind of Sebastian/Lizzy/Ciel I'm seeing, and now I wouldn't have to write half a novel just to get them to where it's plausible. The mangaka has done it already! *sparkles some more* And, of course, the deeper that does, the more it becomes Very Fraught that Sebastian is going to consume Ciel's soul some day.
*just sparkles really a lot*
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Date: 2011-06-13 10:26 pm (UTC)And the rest is all a matter of subtleties of interpretation. I can totally see Sebastian incorporating this knowledge into his strategic and tactical picture of whatever's happening around them at any given time -- indeed, I can't imagine that he wouldn't, or that he would not be in a position to see that she had the appropriate weapons whenever it looked as though they might become necessary.
I still have trouble seeing Ciel or Sebastian letting her in on the business side very far, though. To some extent, certainly: for one thing, I can't believe that Ciel doesn't have a little talk with her the very instant they're old enough for the tacit engagement to turn into something society expects them to act on. It seems to me that he has to tell her something about what happened during that time he vanished. Because really, he can't marry, or I can't see how he can. Not until every bit of that conspiracy that killed his parents and upended his life is found and extirpated. Until then his wife would be a target, as would, obviously, any children of the marriage. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see him being willing to risk that under any circumstances. So he's going to need to tell her something like, "There is no other woman I'd rather marry, and I'm not going to break this engagement; but it's going to be a long engagement, I don't know when I will be able to marry you, and I promise you now that I'll release you in a way that no dishonor attaches to you if you find someone else before that time comes. For your sake, I think you should look around. Oh, and here: have a fabulous emerald in a ring that won't be to your taste. Feel free to have it reset."
And she'll be upset, and bring all her force of character and intelligence into trying to be let in further, but I kind of don't think this is a point Ciel would be likely to give on. Especially since, depending on what version of the contract you go with, the truth of the matter may be that he can never marry at all; the instant he really has cleared the field of his enemies he'll be bound to fulfill a previous engagement.
-- As all that implies, my read has been that he already knows how strong she is. He's seen her forcefulness, her courage, and her emotional resilience, and we know he cares for her; I'm thinking that caring is likely to be based on more than shared blood and her interest in all things pink. Thus, my sense that his discovering she can use a sword with deadly effectiveness isn't so different from knowing her to be a strong swimmer: something impressive but not startling.
Or, maybe all this is an artifact of my imprinting on the first anime series before I read the manga? Either way, it's not as if I disagreed on the underlying point. Which remains, Swords, Elizabeth, OMG yes.
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Date: 2011-06-13 10:37 pm (UTC)I will be extremely interested to see how the mangaka chooses to play this out, now.
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Date: 2011-06-13 11:25 pm (UTC)the only friend I have who is reading Kuroshitsuji hasn't caught up yet, but I NEED SOMEONE TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS LIKE I WAS!!!!
I literally squeeed and clapped my hands, I was so happy about this!! I mean I was wishing with all my heart for this since Lizzys mother showed up, but I kind of lost hope, so this just is made out of SO MUCH AWESOME!!!
Lizzy not only kicking ass, but SAVING CIEL!!! A GIRL! WITH FRILLS!! SAVING THE DAY!!!!
JUST NOT ENOUGH SQUEE IN THE WORLD!!
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Date: 2011-06-13 11:28 pm (UTC)And you know she'll still be all about the frills and the cute and making Ciel wear matching outfits, and all the time she's SO INCREDIBLY KICK-ASS!
*sparkles with joy*
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Date: 2011-06-14 10:06 pm (UTC)Plus there's Frances and her family kicking ass while not bothering to take names and THEN! LIZZY. Cutesy-frilly, pig-tailed Lizzy. With DUAL SWORDS. And- The AWESOME. YES. WORLDS of YES. ♥ ♥ ♥ This is the kind of girl I'd always hoped she'd someday come to be, but here she is! And I wouldn't change her for the world.
(Although I can't help but want to call this the "My heart will go on~" arc. *headdesks* Stupid connections in my stupid brain...)
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Date: 2011-06-14 10:10 pm (UTC)LIZZY! LIZZY OWNS THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, YES! This may now be my favorite manga ever, just because LIZZY GOT TO BE THIS AWESOME.
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Date: 2011-06-17 06:33 am (UTC)And yes, there really really does need to be S/L/C fic.
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