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branchandroot: Winry with an evil and determined grin (Winry bat out of hell)
[personal profile] branchandroot
Just caught up with Kuroshitsuji, and I have only this to say:

YES, YES, YES, GO, GO, OMG, YES!!!!!



GO ELIZABETH, YOU ROCK THE WORLD, OMG TOBOSO YOU ROCK SO HARD LET ME KISS YOUR FUCKING FEET, YES, YES, YES!!!

LIZZY WITH A SWORD! LIZZY KICKING ZOMBIE ASS! THE WORLD IS BEAUTIFUL, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SEBASTIAN/LIZZY/CIEL FIC RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!



*pauses to catch her breath* The last issue made my fucking MONTH. *grinning all over her face*

Date: 2011-06-13 07:25 pm (UTC)
saekhwa: Asian woman with short black hair & arms outspread and text that reads: 'free' (deliriously effing happy)
From: [personal profile] saekhwa
I had to delurk to SQUEE, BECAUSE OMG YES. *flails* How ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AMAZING was that?

AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SEBASTIAN/LIZZY/CIEL FIC RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!

THIS, TOO. So much of this would be freaking fabulous right now.

Date: 2011-06-17 06:41 am (UTC)
othercat: shader from chrono crusade standing with her back to the viewer. In the background is the Earth. (journalling this)
From: [personal profile] othercat
...There is fic where Lizzy is awesome? Link please?

Date: 2011-06-13 08:22 pm (UTC)
kaigou: this is what I do, darling (2 to the internet!)
From: [personal profile] kaigou
Clearly it is time for me to catch up, if I have something to look forward to that's enough to make you into a squeeball.

Date: 2011-06-13 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wow, I feel more like an alien than ever.

Don't get me wrong: I love Lizzie and her swords. It's just that I've started to have the sense that I'm the only person in the world who wasn't really surprised (she's always had a will of iron, and her mother is who she is; wasn't it always likely that she'd be able to fight and fearless and competent under the right circumstances?), and the only one who doesn't have a sense that this really changes anything about her relationships. (Why would it? She's always loved Ciel and she's always fought for him, whether he knew it or not, and whether it was in ways he recognized or not. And he's always loved her, although not necessarily in all the ways she'd like. He knows she has courage, or he should. What's different now?)

Which isn't to say I'm not willing to be convinced that this changes the relevant relationships, or about the plausibility and goodness of any and all Sebastian/Lizzy/Ciel. I totally am. I'm just . . . bemused. Everyone else is seeing it, and it is invisible to my eyes, and that's always kinda disorienting.

Date: 2011-06-13 08:51 pm (UTC)
phoebe_zeitgeist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist
And that was me, in case it wasn't all too obvious from style alone. Sorry. I thought I was logged in, but evidently not.

Date: 2011-06-13 10:26 pm (UTC)
phoebe_zeitgeist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist
Ah! So, some of the difference in perception is nothing more than my being a latecomer to the series, so that it was a matter of mere weeks between my being introduced to the Marchioness and finding that she has seen that her daughter had the kind of education I would have expected her to insist on. I didn't have time to even think about the possibility that it would be otherwise, let alone spend years dreading it.

And the rest is all a matter of subtleties of interpretation. I can totally see Sebastian incorporating this knowledge into his strategic and tactical picture of whatever's happening around them at any given time -- indeed, I can't imagine that he wouldn't, or that he would not be in a position to see that she had the appropriate weapons whenever it looked as though they might become necessary.

I still have trouble seeing Ciel or Sebastian letting her in on the business side very far, though. To some extent, certainly: for one thing, I can't believe that Ciel doesn't have a little talk with her the very instant they're old enough for the tacit engagement to turn into something society expects them to act on. It seems to me that he has to tell her something about what happened during that time he vanished. Because really, he can't marry, or I can't see how he can. Not until every bit of that conspiracy that killed his parents and upended his life is found and extirpated. Until then his wife would be a target, as would, obviously, any children of the marriage. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see him being willing to risk that under any circumstances. So he's going to need to tell her something like, "There is no other woman I'd rather marry, and I'm not going to break this engagement; but it's going to be a long engagement, I don't know when I will be able to marry you, and I promise you now that I'll release you in a way that no dishonor attaches to you if you find someone else before that time comes. For your sake, I think you should look around. Oh, and here: have a fabulous emerald in a ring that won't be to your taste. Feel free to have it reset."

And she'll be upset, and bring all her force of character and intelligence into trying to be let in further, but I kind of don't think this is a point Ciel would be likely to give on. Especially since, depending on what version of the contract you go with, the truth of the matter may be that he can never marry at all; the instant he really has cleared the field of his enemies he'll be bound to fulfill a previous engagement.

-- As all that implies, my read has been that he already knows how strong she is. He's seen her forcefulness, her courage, and her emotional resilience, and we know he cares for her; I'm thinking that caring is likely to be based on more than shared blood and her interest in all things pink. Thus, my sense that his discovering she can use a sword with deadly effectiveness isn't so different from knowing her to be a strong swimmer: something impressive but not startling.

Or, maybe all this is an artifact of my imprinting on the first anime series before I read the manga? Either way, it's not as if I disagreed on the underlying point. Which remains, Swords, Elizabeth, OMG yes.

Date: 2011-06-13 11:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravelqueen
THANK YOU!!!
the only friend I have who is reading Kuroshitsuji hasn't caught up yet, but I NEED SOMEONE TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS LIKE I WAS!!!!

I literally squeeed and clapped my hands, I was so happy about this!! I mean I was wishing with all my heart for this since Lizzys mother showed up, but I kind of lost hope, so this just is made out of SO MUCH AWESOME!!!

Lizzy not only kicking ass, but SAVING CIEL!!! A GIRL! WITH FRILLS!! SAVING THE DAY!!!!

JUST NOT ENOUGH SQUEE IN THE WORLD!!

Date: 2011-06-14 10:06 pm (UTC)
takerzmuse: vampire knight; kaname faintly smiling (Romeo ♥ Juliet ✖ ways you made me feel)
From: [personal profile] takerzmuse
I just finished catching up, myself. I'd finished off the Mr. Wordsmith arc and let the chapters build up, but- Zombies! I was missing out on ZOMBIES! And- And- zombie horses! With Snake being cute and Shinigami going around making bloody messes (and TITANIC POSES OMG)! ♥ ♥ ♥

Plus there's Frances and her family kicking ass while not bothering to take names and THEN! LIZZY. Cutesy-frilly, pig-tailed Lizzy. With DUAL SWORDS. And- The AWESOME. YES. WORLDS of YES. ♥ ♥ ♥ This is the kind of girl I'd always hoped she'd someday come to be, but here she is! And I wouldn't change her for the world.

(Although I can't help but want to call this the "My heart will go on~" arc. *headdesks* Stupid connections in my stupid brain...)

Date: 2011-06-17 06:33 am (UTC)
othercat: shader from chrono crusade standing with her back to the viewer. In the background is the Earth. (ciel: evol mastermind!)
From: [personal profile] othercat
My reaction: LIZZY HOW DARE YOU HIDE YOUR ADORABLE KICKASS SIDE!?

And yes, there really really does need to be S/L/C fic.

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