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branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
[personal profile] branchandroot
*looking at the "new and improved" archive skin in horror*

Gray! The background is GRAY!

And the "this is one of your own things" background is PINK!

*horrified beyond words*

ETA: A Quick Fix Skin I ran up is available here until it actually goes public.

Date: 2011-11-11 09:14 pm (UTC)
dancing_serpent: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dancing_serpent
It looks awful! And my neat little code to hide the kudos doesn't work any more.

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Date: 2011-11-11 09:31 pm (UTC)
edenfalling: stylized black-and-white line art of a sunset over water (Default)
From: [personal profile] edenfalling
I have no real room to talk, but man, that's not what I'd call an improvement. Also, the little square of warning icons keeps intermittently hiding parts of the header info when I am scrolling down a list of stories in any given fandom, which is just badly done code whatever you think of the aesthetics.

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Date: 2011-11-11 09:40 pm (UTC)
synecdochic: torso of a man wearing jeans, hands bound with belt (Default)
From: [personal profile] synecdochic
*wince* Ouch. What's with those margins?

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Date: 2011-11-11 10:14 pm (UTC)
the_rck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_rck
I can't figure out how to see the rest of the fics I've written. The twenty most recent display, but there's no way to page into seeing the remaining seventeen. I shouldn't have to do acrobatics to see the full list of things I've written. Right now, I can get to them by displaying in reverse of posting date, but if I'd written more than forty stories, I'd be completely at a loss.

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Date: 2011-11-11 10:17 pm (UTC)
hydrangea: (meta: slashy)
From: [personal profile] hydrangea
That was my reaction when I saw the change as well. I just spent an hour trying to get the red disappear and the buttons go away and everything just kept going wonky. Ended up Adblocking and then increasing font-size and turning everything black/white in NoSquint instead. Not quite what I had hoped from a new skin.

Date: 2011-11-11 10:22 pm (UTC)
ysobel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysobel
.......what is this I don't even. /flees in terror/

Date: 2011-11-11 10:33 pm (UTC)
annotated_em: TYL Hibari (Katekyou Hitman Reborn), colored, not smiling. (Hibari - emphatically not impressed)
From: [personal profile] annotated_em
Jesus fucking christ that is fugly beyond words.

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Date: 2011-11-11 10:36 pm (UTC)
helens78: Cartoon. An orange cat sits on the chest of a woman with short hair and glasses. (Default)
From: [personal profile] helens78
*weeps in horror* *clings*

I'm having to start from the ground up with my neat, tidy white background/black text/sans-serif font. FROM THE GROUND UP. Oh, God.

I'm very excited about the fact that I will, eventually, be able to create a mobile stylesheet. That's fantastic. But. URK. OH GOD.

Date: 2011-11-11 10:40 pm (UTC)
helens78: Cartoon. An orange cat sits on the chest of a woman with short hair and glasses. (Default)
From: [personal profile] helens78
ALSO ARE YOU KIDDING ME. ALL THAT SHIT ABOUT HOW WE WON'T HAVE TO USE !IMPORTANT ANYMORE. AND WHAT HAPPENS. I HAVE TO USE !IMPORTANT TO GET MY FONT FACE TO SHOW UP. OTHERWISE I AM LEFT WITH HALF SERIF AND HALF SANS-SERIF *FROTHS AT MOUTH*

Er, sorry about the caps, but I am so pissed about that I can't even tell you. The entire reason I came up with a custom skin was to get rid of serif fonts. And then I tried putting sans-serif fonts in and WHAT. WHAT.

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Date: 2011-11-11 10:37 pm (UTC)
krait: a sea snake (krait) swimming (Default)
From: [personal profile] krait
I... think I need to go look at the archive! I closed all my tabs a few hours ago when it went down, and didn't realise they were doing such, er, physical updates, so -- off to investigate.

Date: 2011-11-11 10:38 pm (UTC)
krait: a sea snake (krait) swimming (Default)
From: [personal profile] krait
Well, first things first: what happened to my purple!? *sighs*

Date: 2011-11-12 12:35 am (UTC)
mitsuhachi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mitsuhachi
/facepalm. I want to love AO3. I really really do. But that is seriously flipping godawful.

Date: 2011-11-12 01:31 am (UTC)
shiraume: (Note: Icon Reflects the Mood.)
From: [personal profile] shiraume
Ow, my EYES. >.< First gmail, now this. Whyyyyyy?

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Date: 2011-11-12 02:43 am (UTC)
phoebe_zeitgeist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist
You know, I tried to read that intro to skins that's linked on the front page, and it makes the kind of sense that . . . oh, all right, I admit that it probably does make sense. To someone who has studied web design, and writes CSS, and is not a mere end user.

But, isn't an archive of this kind supposed to function for people who are not particularly interested in writing code? Maybe I'm being a big entitled baby about this, but life is short, and while I respect and admire you folks who code and design layouts and such, I've come to accept that coding is far, far down on my big list of things I want to learn to do some day. Behind cabinetmaking, and lost wax casting in precious metals, and pharmacology, and racecar driving, and a bunch of other things. So odds are good that I'm not going to get to it any time soon. Is it really unreasonable for me to want things like AO3 to work without my having to know what the devil a skin is? And to be able to do simple searching and simple formatting of anything I might want to archive there without having to acquire a whole new set of nearly-professional-level skills?

It probably sounds as if I mean those questions to be rhetorical, but I don't, really. It could be that I'm wrong about where the technology of the Internet really is in relation to end users -- that is, that we're not yet at a point where it's reasonable for people like me to expect to be able to not know these things. Once upon a time, if you were going to drive a car you needed to know a fairish amount about how the machine worked, and some basic things you could do for yourself when yours inevitably broke down. Now, you mostly can't fix one yourself if you want to, and there's no reason for you to know much about how one works if you're not a professional. It's just, I had thought that the net had gotten to a point where I really, really could forget about learning to program and not spend much time tripping over my own ignorance.

Date: 2011-11-12 02:55 am (UTC)
musyc: Silver flute resting diagonally across sheet music (Default)
From: [personal profile] musyc
Came across this on my network and was ridiculously relieved to finally find a place of commiseration. Hardly anyone I've talked to in the past few hours understands the pain. My frankenpasted skin is borked, and I have NO idea what to do to fix it, (see as read, frankenpasted from various sources I can't even fiiiiiiind now) and OMG, I can't view one damn thing on my mobile device *grrargh*.

I was very excited about new skins and after the deploy I nearly cried. Maybe this will give me the impetus to finally make things purple like I prefer them, but until I have the energy to do that, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Were these skins tested AT ALL?

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Date: 2011-11-12 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jorockz
I saw this post linked by someone on twitter (lost who sorry) and I am so happy there are people who also hate it. I don't get who thought making the font smaller and shrinking the margins was a good idea :(

And the 1.0 skin doesn't change either of those.

I agree with the person above- I use the AO3 to read- why should I have to spend hours learning about skins and coding (it all looks like gibberish to me!) to make the site readable? And they make it sound so easy "if you want to make a new skin just browse this!" when it clearly isn't.

There was only one thing I wanted changed-and that has stayed the same.

Sorry for the random person ranting-just happy to find other people who also aren't happy.

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Date: 2011-11-12 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] taithe
I have F.lux on and it really didn't help the washed out look of AO3. :( I hadn't even known they were going to change the archive skin. I wish there was a function that'd allow you to switch to the old if you don't like the new. My biggest annoyance is with the margins. Maybe it's the result of being trained to stare at documents with margins with 1 inches or greater...

...for now I'll just try downloading fics and reading them on a .pdf instead.

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Date: 2011-11-12 05:54 am (UTC)
qem_chibati: Fullmetal alchemist - sarchasms, we can has them. (Bunny is so happy!)
From: [personal profile] qem_chibati
I only have mobile devices available, and it's ok for me on the iPad. (just as well. I have no idea how could quick fix on this thing). But it was a nasty surprise to fid on the phone.

The blog post are basically unreadable and none of the public skins could fix that.

I wished we could have something as good as ff.net, but at least it worked before. :(

(also. Omg. Panda madness skin. Awesome idea, horrifying to look at.)

Date: 2011-11-12 06:29 am (UTC)
highlander_ii: The Prestige - we need to steal Borden's act... from M15M ([m15m] steal Borden's act)
From: [personal profile] highlander_ii
Yeah - I opened the AO3 to do Yuletide noms and had to go change it to something that didn't make my eyes bleed before I could nom' things. The pink? WTF? PINK? There are so many things wrong with that, not the least of which is that it's kind of offensive in a 'all girls like pink, right?' kind of way. Ugh.

And way to fail on the page navigation 'hovering' over there under the filters in a little square. *headdesk*

i'm too tired to be more polite than that

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Date: 2011-11-12 03:28 pm (UTC)
foxinthestars: cute drawing of a fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] foxinthestars
I actually liked the old look quite a bit. It had a nice, relaxed, "step out of the way for the user content and give it room to breathe" feeling that seemed appropriate to the project --- not that it was perfect of course, but it was more pleasant to look at than it is now (and the "Default 1.0" skin does not bring that feeling back). I can probably get used to it, but... Ick. And things getting randomly hidden under their own identifying icons, happened to me once while browsing the public skins...

(And this is their idea of how to appeal to Anime/Manga fans??)

Date: 2011-11-12 04:54 pm (UTC)
musyc: Silver flute resting diagonally across sheet music (Default)
From: [personal profile] musyc
I briefly wondered if someone on the site was COMPLETELY confused about what anime/manga fans liked, and if the "PANDA MADNESS" skin was actually an attempt at attracting said. If so, WOW, more problems than CSS are afoot. (Not that I actually think this could be accurate, but my first horrified thoughts of staring at skins led me there.)

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Date: 2011-11-13 08:15 am (UTC)
lorax: Ambitious But Rubbish (Top Gear - "Ambitious But Rubbish")
From: [personal profile] lorax
The default colors were pretty dismal, but I actually thought it was fine, once I picked another skin. Until I looked at it on my phone and it was unreadable. Ouch.

Date: 2011-11-13 09:41 am (UTC)
killing_rose: Vala: WTF? (WTF?)
From: [personal profile] killing_rose
Here via unfunnyfandom.

And. I'm so glad I'm not alone. (My reading page and my roommate's cries of horror told me that I was not alone, but it's nice to know that people outside of my immediate sandbox are also upset.)

I've implemented the various stylish scripts, but holy god, I should not have to do that in order to not get a migraine. And I don't even read on Ao3; I flip over to it to pull off Kindle-formatted fics. In the five minutes it takes me to assemble a day or two's worth of fic, my head started pounding. Not okay. (And I know I cannot possibly be alone. Isn't the OTW or Ao3 committed to accessibility? Because grey on grey is seriously inaccessible. And let's not consider the panda skin. I'm trying to forget the panda skin.)

I have to ask: What were they thinking?

Date: 2011-11-14 12:06 am (UTC)
neotoma: Lego Vader facepalms (Vader Facepalm)
From: [personal profile] neotoma
My problem is that I am an end user and while they have a create-your-own-skin options, there is no easily identifiable FAQs/tutorial on how to do it for someone who doesn't code and has no idea where to start.

I just want the old margins back and a font that is a little bigger and easier to read. I'm nearsighted and eyestrain is already a problem for me -- the changes as implemented just make it worse.

I'll try copypasta-ing your Quick Fix Skin in later, when I have the energy to fight through the unfamiliar process.

Here from [personal profile] celli, btw.

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