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branchandroot: a globe of earth inside a gear (global steampunk)
[personal profile] branchandroot
The goal of most of my steampunk worldbuilding has been to get everyone to meet at the 17th and 18th centuries. Up to that point, my concept of technological development has been very standard and historical; some things get noticed earlier, like movable type or the steam turbine, some social catalysts are moved around to keep cultures from locking into decline, like a small revolution for the Maya or Dara winning in India or Wu being defeated before he can ally with the Manchu or Selim II picking a different war and not losing his fleet. Overall, though, technology develops in mundane ways.


By the 17th and 18th centuries, though, global trade and communication have evolved and all the centers of development are in contact with each other. Most of them are also at war with each other at one point or another. This makes a logical environment to pressurize both technological and cultural development. At this point, we have the perfect explanation for even the wildest extremes of steampunk. Airships, walking wagons (or tanks), automata serving tea, you name it, with all this driving innovation surely there's some way to come up with it. Perhaps wars between the Mayan city-states are now fought half by ceramic automata, and the fixed defenses are built in the form of big stone statues with movable heads and arms for aiming. Perhaps China has air-based cities, trade cities that travel. Perhaps someone in Europe has collected everything anyone ever wrote about optics and has developed laser guns, vaporization, for the use of.

There is, of course, always the question of the power source. In some cases, spring and steam power are perfectly feasible, though they do suggest that coal and oil extraction also explodes early. In others that doesn't seem suitable. One point Chron makes is that mineral fuel sources would be unacceptable for some Native American nations, and this suggests the inclusion of magic as a motive force. I like this! And perhaps that development leads some esoteric scholars in other cultures to take a second look at their own traditions. Golems, after all, have a very long history. I can see wind and water power being used for stationary power plants pretty quickly also. If we assume that cities will see the use of power plants early on, then this suggests it might, indeed, be possible for nations to develop particle beams as stationary defensive installations with dedicated plants.

And this gives us the mix which is so characteristic of steampunk: the old with the not-even-here-yet, tall ships with submarines, water clocks with mecha.

Date: 2010-06-11 01:56 am (UTC)
tessercat: (broken watches)
From: [personal profile] tessercat
Very cool. I've been enjoying your extrapolations and tweaking!

From what I understand (not having read deeply on it myself), the concepts of both batteries and solar panels had at least been described, if not implemented (due to lack of proper materials) by the late 1800s. This could add another layer to the power source mix.

Date: 2010-06-11 03:14 pm (UTC)
chronolith: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chronolith
Well, you could always argue that they figured out how to do green energy faster and skipped the entire mineral dependence right off the bat.

I think you would just have a hard time getting mining into a lot of the traditional tribal communities because they moved around too much depending upon climate. Up north at least. However, Cherokee did span all the way from Atlanta up to West Virginia, across out to Tennesse and down to New Orleans. And they were settlement based so they might figure out coal and then jump to water power & then solar.

I think the Ojibwe speaking nations would probably figure out wind power pretty quick given how fast and hard the wind moves off the plains.

Date: 2010-06-11 06:38 pm (UTC)
chronolith: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chronolith
Well, Pueblo now like to call themselves the sun people. I'm not sure if they always did, but them Hopi have a lot of sun to work with and houses with wide flat roofs that make for great sun platforms for any sort of technology.

It's the way north crew who are kinda screwed for natural ... wait, they have geothermals that they can totally tap into with the hot springs and lava all over. Iceland is now completely powered by geothermal, you could look at that as a template for the Inuit/Haida/Athabascan crew.

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