Fascinating (got here via meta-fandom though I also know cathexys!)--I come at this differently but from the same sort of perspective if that makes sense. And I love Bakhtin as well.
Amazing how "speech" is taught but not "listening," and how little attention is given to listening in lots of ideas and talk about communication, but you're perfectly right.
Especially about wank being essential in communication....in fact, it's probably most of communication (even outside fandom, snicker).
Yes, I often stop to read you in her comments. *waves cheerfully*
Ah, Bakhtin, my first crit crush. Though this particular ramble is more the love-child of Lois McMaster Bujold and Ursula K. LeGuin. I've become so fond of their takes on what audience is all about that I get bewildered when the activeness of receiving anything is overlooked or dismissed.
... not that Speech class didn't involve long periods of utter passive boredom, but that was all about not listening. *wry*
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Date: 2005-02-20 06:37 pm (UTC)Amazing how "speech" is taught but not "listening," and how little attention is given to listening in lots of ideas and talk about communication, but you're perfectly right.
Especially about wank being essential in communication....in fact, it's probably most of communication (even outside fandom, snicker).
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Date: 2005-02-20 08:40 pm (UTC)Ah, Bakhtin, my first crit crush. Though this particular ramble is more the love-child of Lois McMaster Bujold and Ursula K. LeGuin. I've become so fond of their takes on what audience is all about that I get bewildered when the activeness of receiving anything is overlooked or dismissed.
... not that Speech class didn't involve long periods of utter passive boredom, but that was all about not listening. *wry*