*nodnod* That's a very good point. I remember the doctor made my uncle stay in the room for the circumcision of his third son. My uncle fainted. The fourth son was not circumsized. *cheers on the doctor*

And very much yes. I find myself less and less willing to define any /culture/ as barbarian, though every culture in existence seems to have /practices/ I find barbaric.

*laughing* I've been on a real essay-roll, lately. Maybe there was something in the latest package of coffee.